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Rhowyn aka Lucille
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Sunny

Sunny
Rhowyn aka Lucille
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Lady Awesomesauce
Flederfalle the BatTrap
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Selma
Kiwiana the Magic Fairy
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Stargazer

Kiwi
BeeNme

Bee
SeaCrest of Adastreia
Water Elemental

Saorise
Flederfalle the BatTrap
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Selma
trystan

trystan
Rhowyn aka Lucille
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Lady Awesomesauce
trystan

trystan
i'm not breaking up with y'all! i'm just saying i'm not here all that much because of me.... it's nothing Faenaria did or didn't do
FireLilly
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The Inquisitive Guardian

FireLilly
I am Tam Tam_I_am
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Utterly Weird
Bendy

Ink
EnvySenpai

Envy
Rhowyn aka Lucille
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Lady Awesomesauce
Giggler

P.I.
that sounds great! I love the idea of releasing already colored pets.
I haven't been on much because of personal life, and I feel like a lot of people are in the same spot. But I love knowing when things get back to normal I can log back in and come 'visit' with my friends again!
Keep up the good work!
kackerlacka

Kackerlacka
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Lady Awesomesauce
Howdy all, I'm going to cut the pleasantries and shenanigans so I can get right to the point. For the last several years the staff and I have been working hard to improve Faenaria in spite of the many challenges we've faced. We've met with marginal success however and lately the team and I have felt discouraged. Though we see a steady stream of new members, we don't seem to be retaining them. Our existing membership has waned and though many check the site on a frequent basis, most of our events see little participation. Likewise, new features aren't met with very much enthusiasm and so we've been wondering what we've been doing wrong?
What is missing from events and new releases that would make you all, the members, more likely to participate? What can we do to better retain new members and engage with veteran members alike? Are the events too confusing, too time consuming, simply uninteresting? What would you like to see more or less of?
I will say, that the interest in Royal's Murder Mystery event was considerable. The dev team and I have been considering doing official story events, with the rough edges smoothed out, that follow a similar formula. Is this something you would be interested in seeing more of? We have also considered branching out to provide other forms of content, such as streams and/or podcasts focused on Faenaria, the lore, the staff members, etc. Is this something users would find appealing? What sort of content would you enjoy seeing us delve into? Likewise, are there any features you feel the site is lacking that would encourage you to be more active?
The team and I are dedicated to making Faenaria as awesome as it possibly can be. We are still faced with a lot of hurdles, namely a lack of consistent income (artists and programmers don't work for free sadly), but as long as the members are still with us, we'll continue to improve the site. If a time has come that the members no longer feel Faenaria is worth supporting, then we need to hear that and hear why, so that hopefully we can get back on track. Otherwise, it is inevitable that the site will wither and die, and that is something none of the staff (myself included) want to see happen.
Everyone, from newbie to veteran, is encouraged to provide feedback here. If you're uncomfortable making your thoughts public, you may send me a private message instead. As always, thanks and love to our wonderful members!
What is missing from events and new releases that would make you all, the members, more likely to participate? What can we do to better retain new members and engage with veteran members alike? Are the events too confusing, too time consuming, simply uninteresting? What would you like to see more or less of?
I will say, that the interest in Royal's Murder Mystery event was considerable. The dev team and I have been considering doing official story events, with the rough edges smoothed out, that follow a similar formula. Is this something you would be interested in seeing more of? We have also considered branching out to provide other forms of content, such as streams and/or podcasts focused on Faenaria, the lore, the staff members, etc. Is this something users would find appealing? What sort of content would you enjoy seeing us delve into? Likewise, are there any features you feel the site is lacking that would encourage you to be more active?
The team and I are dedicated to making Faenaria as awesome as it possibly can be. We are still faced with a lot of hurdles, namely a lack of consistent income (artists and programmers don't work for free sadly), but as long as the members are still with us, we'll continue to improve the site. If a time has come that the members no longer feel Faenaria is worth supporting, then we need to hear that and hear why, so that hopefully we can get back on track. Otherwise, it is inevitable that the site will wither and die, and that is something none of the staff (myself included) want to see happen.
Everyone, from newbie to veteran, is encouraged to provide feedback here. If you're uncomfortable making your thoughts public, you may send me a private message instead. As always, thanks and love to our wonderful members!


Sunny
I haven't participated very much this year because I became a widow in March and I am still having difficulties focusing on just about anything, really.
Right now, I couldn't give coherent feedback on anything other than to say that I love the avatar clothes and wish I could get more. However, due to grief, I am not very coherent in terms of explaining what I like and don't like. I'm sorry.
I do know that I like Faenaria very much.
Right now, I couldn't give coherent feedback on anything other than to say that I love the avatar clothes and wish I could get more. However, due to grief, I am not very coherent in terms of explaining what I like and don't like. I'm sorry.
I do know that I like Faenaria very much.
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Lady Awesomesauce
@Sunny I'm so sorry to hear of your loss and can completely understand not being all there. Thank you for taking the time to offer some feedback anyway. Wishing you the best as you continue working through this hardship. 

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Selma
{hugs @Sunny}
I don't think my feedback would be useful either. I like this site, its friendlieness, I like the avatars
I totally missed the last FAD
Don't know how this could happen.
As for keeping things interesting, maybe rotate types of events? Like, 1 month a FAD or something other avatar related, next month a story event, and the 3rd month something else?
Otherwise, I cannot really tell how other people are ticking - obviously, I myself am still here
I don't think my feedback would be useful either. I like this site, its friendlieness, I like the avatars

I totally missed the last FAD

As for keeping things interesting, maybe rotate types of events? Like, 1 month a FAD or something other avatar related, next month a story event, and the 3rd month something else?
Otherwise, I cannot really tell how other people are ticking - obviously, I myself am still here

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Stargazer

Kiwi
(much love to @Sunny)
I think for content there is not really something missing and all the art is beyond gorgeous, the avatars, pets, clothes etc.
What bothers me (personally!!) is the design and the structure of the forum. I do not feel comfortable there. It lacks love imo ^^ It is kinda oldfashioned, it could be prettier and maybe somehow better organized. I never find what I look for, like atm I cant find the Murder Mystery, it already fell off the front page and all I can think of is to check in my notifs if hopefully I find a link, cus it stresses me to search through the forum when I do not even know in what section to look. There is lots of closed threads inbetween normal and inversed ones, which feels untidy.
I can't really say how it would feel better and I know thats not very helpful lol, but I can say that f. e. the forum at Dappervolk or FR are ones that has what I would call 'warmth'.
And our front page, with two columns, banners, pets, rounded boxes etc. has that too!
Perhaps it has to do with the separating of the posts that makes me feel that, am not sure.
Maybe 'more playful, not so stringent' is what I mean
But that again is just me, so no idea if it is important to others at all!
(and MY lack of participation has to do with RL, not the site
)
I think for content there is not really something missing and all the art is beyond gorgeous, the avatars, pets, clothes etc.
What bothers me (personally!!) is the design and the structure of the forum. I do not feel comfortable there. It lacks love imo ^^ It is kinda oldfashioned, it could be prettier and maybe somehow better organized. I never find what I look for, like atm I cant find the Murder Mystery, it already fell off the front page and all I can think of is to check in my notifs if hopefully I find a link, cus it stresses me to search through the forum when I do not even know in what section to look. There is lots of closed threads inbetween normal and inversed ones, which feels untidy.
I can't really say how it would feel better and I know thats not very helpful lol, but I can say that f. e. the forum at Dappervolk or FR are ones that has what I would call 'warmth'.
And our front page, with two columns, banners, pets, rounded boxes etc. has that too!

Perhaps it has to do with the separating of the posts that makes me feel that, am not sure.
Maybe 'more playful, not so stringent' is what I mean

But that again is just me, so no idea if it is important to others at all!
(and MY lack of participation has to do with RL, not the site


Bee
Life is so overwhelming right now that I don't check in much because I'm trying to deal with teaching both virtually and in-person through a pandemic while trying to take care of my husband who is doing much better, but still has major physical problems after his bout with covid19.
The only thing I can think of site-wise, is that it is still totally unclear to me how I can get a pet. (I have an Amber Talisman, but can't find any information on what to do to get a pet with it. If I go to create a pet, it wants me to upload an image - what image? Am I supposed to design my own? how?)
The only thing I can think of site-wise, is that it is still totally unclear to me how I can get a pet. (I have an Amber Talisman, but can't find any information on what to do to get a pet with it. If I go to create a pet, it wants me to upload an image - what image? Am I supposed to design my own? how?)
Water Elemental

Saorise
Hanging out and observing all the feedback (along with the rest of the staff!), but I thought I'd pop in and address @BeeNme's comment about pets; the Newbie Guide linked in the Help menu in navigation includes a section on pets! That should address your questions, but please let me know if anything is still unclearβyou are also absolutely encouraged to make use of the Help Center!
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Selma
Oh right, I forgot about this part:
A set of pre-designed pets (1 or 2 per genus?) would be awesome. The first pet you start with doesn't need to be a super-personalized one, it'll be special just by being your first. I think it would make the whole pet creation process less intimidating (the initial blueish PSD is like a blank page for a writer - WHERE DO I START?
).
It could be a pair of PSD and PNG files to download: the PNG could be used directly to follow the upload guidelines without any changes, the PSD for it to provide a starting point from which one can go and add a few details to test out the waters.
This would require a little work from the programmer (basically just download links) and a lot of work for the site designers, sorry
Also, the link to the newbie guide's pet section could be provided on the Genus Codex or the Uploading page as long as the user has zero pets?
I remember having a lot of questions about details of the site that long-term users probably all knew already, and I felt a little dumb for not understanding half of the lingo here
Luckily, I'm not too shy to ask dumb questions! But others may be. The site got a lot easier to understand since I joined, but a little more newbie-friendliness could help keep new members?
A set of pre-designed pets (1 or 2 per genus?) would be awesome. The first pet you start with doesn't need to be a super-personalized one, it'll be special just by being your first. I think it would make the whole pet creation process less intimidating (the initial blueish PSD is like a blank page for a writer - WHERE DO I START?

It could be a pair of PSD and PNG files to download: the PNG could be used directly to follow the upload guidelines without any changes, the PSD for it to provide a starting point from which one can go and add a few details to test out the waters.
This would require a little work from the programmer (basically just download links) and a lot of work for the site designers, sorry

Also, the link to the newbie guide's pet section could be provided on the Genus Codex or the Uploading page as long as the user has zero pets?
I remember having a lot of questions about details of the site that long-term users probably all knew already, and I felt a little dumb for not understanding half of the lingo here


trystan
i took a little bit of time to think about this, being a newcomer to the site - but i remember a lot of names from a previous life (well, it feels that way.)
i'm here for the community and the avatars... they're awesome, and the work that goes into the items is amazing. i subscribe to the threads i do or want to interact with, and i generally just stick with those. i do take a look at the events, but i figured out that i'm not here as much for the same reason it took as long as it did for me to actually sign up - way toooo many logins! (which was only june of this year!)
i have a bunch of other sites that i interact with as well, and some of those are also the same way - interact with the threads that i follow/subscribe to, and that's really it. and that's like three other sites, as well as social media, too. (there's also some places i have log-ins for, but haven't been there in forever....) i just have SO MUCH online content, i don't have time for all of it, so i interact with a little bit of a lot of it. (now, if we can figure out how to have more than 24 hours in a day, there might be something to that.
)
so, sounding like a bad cliche - it's not you, it's me.
i'm here for the community and the avatars... they're awesome, and the work that goes into the items is amazing. i subscribe to the threads i do or want to interact with, and i generally just stick with those. i do take a look at the events, but i figured out that i'm not here as much for the same reason it took as long as it did for me to actually sign up - way toooo many logins! (which was only june of this year!)
i have a bunch of other sites that i interact with as well, and some of those are also the same way - interact with the threads that i follow/subscribe to, and that's really it. and that's like three other sites, as well as social media, too. (there's also some places i have log-ins for, but haven't been there in forever....) i just have SO MUCH online content, i don't have time for all of it, so i interact with a little bit of a lot of it. (now, if we can figure out how to have more than 24 hours in a day, there might be something to that.

so, sounding like a bad cliche - it's not you, it's me.

Queen of Typoes

insta / snap / discord: trystan830 | she / her / hers | stories
currently reading: (#20) | currently watching:

thanks!!: yumekaczorek for cauldron & bubbles | weezee for mini Tabby & arachne skirt
Kalika for pens and quills
Flederfalle for Sorako; Vamp Underskirt & Ruffles; Vamp Necklace Ribbon & Cameo

insta / snap / discord: trystan830 | she / her / hers | stories
currently reading: (#20) | currently watching:





thanks!!: yumekaczorek for cauldron & bubbles | weezee for mini Tabby & arachne skirt
Kalika for pens and quills
Flederfalle for Sorako; Vamp Underskirt & Ruffles; Vamp Necklace Ribbon & Cameo
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Lady Awesomesauce
@Kiwiana @Flederfalle @trystan Thank you so much for the feedback! We're already working on how to handle the issues you brought up and make these areas better. weezee has been working on a new layout for us to make Faenaria feel more fresh and modern so updating the forums is easily added to our to do list!
*sob* You're breaking up with us?!
trystan...it's not you, it's me.
*sob* You're breaking up with us?!


trystan
.... i'm sorry, i had to laugh!Lucille*sob* You're breaking up with us?!trystan...it's not you, it's me.
i'm not breaking up with y'all! i'm just saying i'm not here all that much because of me.... it's nothing Faenaria did or didn't do

Queen of Typoes

insta / snap / discord: trystan830 | she / her / hers | stories
currently reading: (#20) | currently watching:

thanks!!: yumekaczorek for cauldron & bubbles | weezee for mini Tabby & arachne skirt
Kalika for pens and quills
Flederfalle for Sorako; Vamp Underskirt & Ruffles; Vamp Necklace Ribbon & Cameo

insta / snap / discord: trystan830 | she / her / hers | stories
currently reading: (#20) | currently watching:





thanks!!: yumekaczorek for cauldron & bubbles | weezee for mini Tabby & arachne skirt
Kalika for pens and quills
Flederfalle for Sorako; Vamp Underskirt & Ruffles; Vamp Necklace Ribbon & Cameo
Ko-fi Bean
The Inquisitive Guardian

FireLilly
Y'all have sparked some really great conversations and ideas within the staff! π₯° Please keep the input coming π
And please, everyone, don't feel "dumb" for asking questions. If something is unclear or confusing to you, chances are someone else feels the same way and may be too shy or even intimidated to ask. (Thank you @Flederfalle your questions and observations have helped us become a better site π.)
If the same question gets asked repeatedly, chances are, that is an area where we need improvement.
I want to, also, thank all of y'all for taking the time to respond. It means a great deal to us.
And please, everyone, don't feel "dumb" for asking questions. If something is unclear or confusing to you, chances are someone else feels the same way and may be too shy or even intimidated to ask. (Thank you @Flederfalle your questions and observations have helped us become a better site π.)
If the same question gets asked repeatedly, chances are, that is an area where we need improvement.
I want to, also, thank all of y'all for taking the time to respond. It means a great deal to us.
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Utterly Weird
Initially I gave up on this site because the ponies that I had come for weren't there anymore, and there were none that I could get without paying real money. Then I found other sites and settled in on them, and I don't really do a lot on any of my forums but one. Like trystan said, I talk in the threads I know and that's about it. I'm usually on sites for the pets or the avatar. Like, I've been on 'Gaia Online' for years, but no one's seen me say anything, because I'm just there for the login rewards and to play with the avatar. And yeah, I too have SO many sites. That is part of why I never take part in events here. Another part is that I have sensory issues, and can easily get overwhelmed by things (and peri menopause isn't helping).
Don't know if any of this made sense. If it didn't, please forgive me.
Don't know if any of this made sense. If it didn't, please forgive me.

Ink
Well..to be honest, when I joined I didn't realize that the only way to get a pet was to download a base then color it myself (I have one downloaded but still trying to figure out how to color it)
or try to get one from someone else.
There is really nothing to do here, no mini-games, no eggs, no expansion on the Compendium...the avatars are ok I suppose.
I mean..once you do manage to get a pet then what? No options to do anything with them...I mean, I like to hoard pets (like I do on Pokefarm) but at least I have an option to battle or have a dress-up contest or explorations.
Of course my lack of knowledge on how to use masks in Photoshop or Gimp is a bit of a stumbling block but even having a handful of ready-made pets would be nice
Forgive my criticism..I know you are working hard to make this place nice and I really am aware that it is a challenge to run a site. It is my fault, really, for not having a good grasp on how to do the coloring using layer masks and all..I am not a graphic artist and just do stuff for fun so that is entirely my fault.
While forums are important, they are not the first and foremost reason I join any site...of course I am a relative newcomer and have no knowledge about what this place was like before (or if there was a 'before' )
It's just..once you do get a pet then where does one go next?
or try to get one from someone else.
There is really nothing to do here, no mini-games, no eggs, no expansion on the Compendium...the avatars are ok I suppose.
I mean..once you do manage to get a pet then what? No options to do anything with them...I mean, I like to hoard pets (like I do on Pokefarm) but at least I have an option to battle or have a dress-up contest or explorations.
Of course my lack of knowledge on how to use masks in Photoshop or Gimp is a bit of a stumbling block but even having a handful of ready-made pets would be nice
Forgive my criticism..I know you are working hard to make this place nice and I really am aware that it is a challenge to run a site. It is my fault, really, for not having a good grasp on how to do the coloring using layer masks and all..I am not a graphic artist and just do stuff for fun so that is entirely my fault.
While forums are important, they are not the first and foremost reason I join any site...of course I am a relative newcomer and have no knowledge about what this place was like before (or if there was a 'before' )
It's just..once you do get a pet then where does one go next?


Envy
I come here every so often mostly because I missed Unifaction and Unicreatures. But I'm terrible at keeping up with anything because I have so much going elsewhere and in my life.
I dunno how to finish all the research stuff because I have everything but the recipes which has nothing listed.
But yeah once you get a pet it kinda just sits there and looks pretty and don't get me wrong I love the one I have, but what the heckie am I gonna do with Genzo?
And since you took out the RP forums, which would have offered a chance to expand on your pets' life had you a section for that and meet other peoples' pets, I usually come around for the games and occasionally enter a contest.
I dunno what to do.
I dunno how to finish all the research stuff because I have everything but the recipes which has nothing listed.
But yeah once you get a pet it kinda just sits there and looks pretty and don't get me wrong I love the one I have, but what the heckie am I gonna do with Genzo?
And since you took out the RP forums, which would have offered a chance to expand on your pets' life had you a section for that and meet other peoples' pets, I usually come around for the games and occasionally enter a contest.
I dunno what to do.
Administrator
Lady Awesomesauce
The feedback you've all given is really illuminating and helpful, thank you so much for taking the time to let us know what you're thinking.

The staff and I have already been discussing our plans moving forward, based on the information everyone has provided. As such, our goals for 2021 are as follows:
β’ Release an update of the site layout. We hope to make it more intuitive and user friendly, with a handful of quality of life improvements. weezee was already working on this, but user feedback has encouraged us to not only do a bit more, but reassured us that we're moving in the right direction here. A rough draft preview of what the new forums will look like: Click (note: this is only a wip)
β’ Update Research/Compendium more frequently. We have a few updates planned and will start pushing these out in the coming months. (sorry for Recipes showing, I didn't realize it showed for users too whoops!)
β’ The major missing feature for Faenaria right now is the Roleplaying Game. This feature is meant to tie the pets and FA both into a progressive story and battle system. Along with it, we're also wanting to release crafting features, allowing you to create gear and weapons, potions, etc. It will be a big undertaking and as such has been put off while we get other aspects of Faenaria *cough*pets*cough* up and running. Given the feedback here, it really seems this feature has hung out on the back burner long enough.
β’ Thanks to our recent fundraiser we will be releasing "Site Pets" which will give members who can't color their own pets a chance to collect gorgeous pets without needing to learn how to operate an art program. We will also be releasing markings (henceforth called genes) that anyone can use on their pets. This should help with that blank canvas feeling. In addition, we are going to be putting out a series of tutorials on how to download, color, upload, etc. custom pets. These guides will be in both a text/screenshot form and offered as videos, in order to appeal to a wide range of learning styles.
If I missed any concerns, please let me know and I will do my best to address it! Again, thanks so much for all the input, it has been invaluable!



The staff and I have already been discussing our plans moving forward, based on the information everyone has provided. As such, our goals for 2021 are as follows:
β’ Release an update of the site layout. We hope to make it more intuitive and user friendly, with a handful of quality of life improvements. weezee was already working on this, but user feedback has encouraged us to not only do a bit more, but reassured us that we're moving in the right direction here. A rough draft preview of what the new forums will look like: Click (note: this is only a wip)
β’ Update Research/Compendium more frequently. We have a few updates planned and will start pushing these out in the coming months. (sorry for Recipes showing, I didn't realize it showed for users too whoops!)
β’ The major missing feature for Faenaria right now is the Roleplaying Game. This feature is meant to tie the pets and FA both into a progressive story and battle system. Along with it, we're also wanting to release crafting features, allowing you to create gear and weapons, potions, etc. It will be a big undertaking and as such has been put off while we get other aspects of Faenaria *cough*pets*cough* up and running. Given the feedback here, it really seems this feature has hung out on the back burner long enough.
β’ Thanks to our recent fundraiser we will be releasing "Site Pets" which will give members who can't color their own pets a chance to collect gorgeous pets without needing to learn how to operate an art program. We will also be releasing markings (henceforth called genes) that anyone can use on their pets. This should help with that blank canvas feeling. In addition, we are going to be putting out a series of tutorials on how to download, color, upload, etc. custom pets. These guides will be in both a text/screenshot form and offered as videos, in order to appeal to a wide range of learning styles.
If I missed any concerns, please let me know and I will do my best to address it! Again, thanks so much for all the input, it has been invaluable!


P.I.

I haven't been on much because of personal life, and I feel like a lot of people are in the same spot. But I love knowing when things get back to normal I can log back in and come 'visit' with my friends again!
Keep up the good work!

Kackerlacka
I know I am late to the party, but all those goals sound amazing! Cant wait to see them get implemented to the site!
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